Look what I found

[David Groover]

Hey, finally I can respond. I have had some trouble sending mail out  
- turns out my port 25 started blocking me and I don't know why. I  
finally tried a different port and voila, I can respond to mail once  
again.

I hadn't realized I had been working on Pan solutions for so long.  
With only one and possibly two exceptions for really cranky people,  
this list has been superb. If Dave T ever teaches a class in this  
stuff, sign me up. Although I feel I have been well and steadily  
schooled as it is over the years here. Lately I watch while others  
get their turn in the help que. OF course I help as I can, and that  
still isnt anuywhere close to how the experts here can twiddle their  
Pan multitools (a lame reference to Leatherman multitools - pocket  
knives, pliers, screwdrivers, etc. all in one).

Thanks for the reminder Jim.

David Groover


On Jul 6, 2008, at 12:26 PM, James Rea wrote:

> For reason's too long to go into, yesterday I was poking around with
> Google searching for "OverVUE". I was suprised at how much I found,
> seeing as OverVUE was discontinued long before Google or even the
> Internet even existed.
>
> During this search, I came across this interesting message on an Apple
> mailing list in 2001.
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I have been looking at several directions to take my Mac skills to
>> the next level. After working with FileMaker (3.x) and 4D (Full
>> developers version), I have not been able to get to a clear choosing
>> between the two. My AppleScript learning gets so far, and then I try
>> again with 4D. And 4D speaks a language that just takes too much
>> time. And as far as I know, 4D is not really useful with AppleScript.
>>
>> But now, there is another player on the field. Oh yes. I have now
>> discovered Panorama. What a cool program. I learned about it as a
>> secret tool for developers who had to clean up nasty text files for
>> clients as 4D solutions were being built. But I am planning to do
>> more than visit. I really like this product. It is written fairly
>> simply but it seems very powerful. It is cross platform, and it works
>> in RAM so it is VERY fast. No, I am not selling it here. I am posting
>> this here because:
>>
>> Panorama seems to integrate with AppleScript better than anything
>> else I have seen on the Mac. I recently heard of a developer that put
>> an AppleScript routine inside a Panorama file with ResEdit. I don't
>> know how? But Panorama has routines that can call AppleScript, and,
>> AppleScripts can call routines in Panorama. Sounds pretty cool to me.
>>
>> So what I am wondering, why am I just hearing about this great
>> database? Is there anyone on this list that has had experiences with
>> AS and Panorama (was called OverVue)? I have given you my enthusiasm
>> but if your experiences are not so hot then I would like to know that
>> too.
>>
>> I can see it's time to get off my crusty butt and get that old,
>> highly recommended reprint of the Goodman Book on Apple Scripting. I
>> do believe a decision has finally been made, whew!
>
> Say, that's interesting. I wonder if this person ever did anything  
> with
> Panorama?
>
>> Thanks for any input.
>>
>> Dave Groover
>> Da Groove Meister
>
> Yeah, I guess he did! :)
>
> Happy 4th!
>
> Jim Rea
> President, ProVUE Development
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